Just want to thank Phenomenon for the instruction list. I have never even touched this type of work before, but with the instructions and everyone who made the mistakes for me I have been able to setup the server, create the settings for ourside access though my router, and the best part of all is it works. I will contiune to probe the forum's to fix issues that I run into since I beleive people much more knowlegable than I have screwed up and I can avoid looking like a noob by asking a dumb question. Point being if you do these directions correctly and understand how this all goes together it will work and make wow fun again. Thanks again