DLeonHeart

is this patch still functional ?

so , are there any news about this ?

its wierd because we used this patch in our older revision and it didnt affect deadly brew, so im guessing the problem must be elsewhere

shameless bump

bump, any news about dismantle ?

thats correct, in our server we have it, but i mean its still not accepted by mangos =(.

special skills not procing poisons is what hurt rogue dps the most

any news???? , in our revision 9110 its still bugged

Today i finally had the chance to test this patch, amazing results, ty for this huge improvement

the poisons bug ?? cause i dont see it listed. poison bug is actually THE rogue bug, its huge. PD: ty as im sure you took the time to test all this.

sorry to say, but you are ignoring rogues poison bug in wich poisons arent applied by skills , just white attacks.

bump, sad to see such an important mechanic not implemented yet

it will not only fix mutilate but rogue damage in general, the bigest reason rogues are nerfed in mangos is because poisons are nor applying from special attacks. as it has been said before, if you had both daggers with wound poison, and mutilate were to apply both poisons from the attack it would be near 1k more damge.

with insider42 repo it works but it doesnt refresh the buff if you already had it by the time you vanish. example: you leave stealth, and you have overkill buff, so you vanish and the buff disappears after a while even if you dont leave stealth, even if you remove the buff beofore vanishing.

in that case, rogues damage dealing skills dont proc poisons only white hits, and mutilate damage is low.

in our server we have tested every talent that modifies mutilate and each talent seems to work properly, I think mutilate damage problem is in an incorrect formula.

if you could post it with the fix you made i would be really gratefull cause i dont know where to add the check you posted, or you could tell me in what part of the code is it suposed to be. is it inside if (spellProto->Effect == SPELL_EFFECT_WEAPON_DAMAGE_NOSCHOOL || spellProto->Effect == SPELL_EFFECT_WEAPON_PERCENT_DAMAGE || spellProto->Effect == SPELL_EFFECT_WEAPON_DAMAGE || spellProto->Effect == SPELL_EFFECT_NORMALIZED_WEAPON_DMG) ???????????

Has anyone tested this patch and can share any feedback plz ?

bump , this patch is really important for rogues

the tooltips says that it refunds the energy when the finisher fail to hit the target, so when it misses its dodged parryed or even blocked it should give the energt back, check wowhead coments.

well that would be huge, keep up the good work!!!

yes they should, and actually that would affect not only mutilate but every combo builder for rogues PD: even though i dont think mutilate bug is just poison proc(due to backstab still doing 1-2k more damage than mut), the poison proc bug is really huge and it nerf us rogues to the ground, so maybe someone could post a thread about it, i would do it my self but its getting late and im tired, i will do it tomorrow if nobody does

those talents are for sure working on backstab. i think mutilate formula isnt taking some talents, the issue must be an incorrect formula

but if the poison procs in lets say mutilate, the poison damage would appear as part of mutilate damage or in another yellow number? the thing im complaining about is that with about 3.5 ap im doing betwen 1-2k more damage with backstab than mutilate(double crit) and we al know mut double crit damage is about the same as backstab crit damage asuming of course poisoned target, and even though poisons arent procing from our abiities we should still see similar damage between mutilate and backstab.

well when i tested it the funny thing is that when the target is poisoned the damage seems affected by the bonus when its a main hand crit or offhand crit but ii doesnt seem to aplly when it hits a double crit(although its only what i found out with my testing and is not an absolute conclution and more testing could have been needed). but if the poisoned target bonus is working properlly then the bug must be elsewhere, maybe the talents afecting mutilate or the extra damage with each hand are not working but mutilate damage in mangos is clearly bugged anyone who have played on retail with a rogue knows this. PD: according to what ive heard, mutilate in trinity seems to be working as intended maybe someone could check mut code there and see if we can aplly it over here