Write Custom bosses without ScriptDev2 in C++

[ilija]

Is this possible? If yes , same functions as ScriptDev2 usage? and which headers should i include?

Thank you!

[Patman128]

Is this possible? If yes , same functions as ScriptDev2 usage? and which headers should i include?

Thank you!

No, some functions in ScriptDev2 are provided by ScriptDev2, like DoMeleeAttackIfReady().

You can use ScriptDev2 but remove all the scripts if you want.

[ilija]

Yes i already did that before, but just wondered if it was possible since you can make gossip without scriptdev2

[darkstalker]

with EventAI?

[lecails]

Of course , its possible, ScriptDev2 use function from mangos .

[lecails]

with EventAI?

EventAi is restricted so just for non complex mob .

[Schmoozerd]

EventAi is restricted so just for non complex mob .

non-complex can ofc be quite complex - and most likely good enough for any custom boss

[ilija]

Just a boss with couple of spells and timers , dont need to be something special(only mob summoning or something)

[Unkle Nuke]

You might also be able to do such a simple boss using just ACID.

[b482518]

EventAI behavior can be quite complex, so it should be more than sufficient for most of your needs. See http://forums.deathknell.cc/wiki/index.php/EventAI_Documentation for documentation on EventAI structure.

[Patman128]

To get back onto the original topic, include whichever headers you need for your script. If you need Creature, include Creature.h, etc.

[lecails]

Eventai can be complex , yes, but he has a limit .

[chmuun]

Why not use ScriptDev2? if u dont want useless scripts... u can remove it u know

[Toinan67]

EventAI has limits now, but imo, in the future, it should become the main boss-scripting system. It's fun to script boss in C++ with ScriptDev2, but having a great SQL-based feature would be better for all

[Schmoozerd]

yes and no

perhaps it was better to use some DB-based engine like rsa/sart does for SD2 scripts, and (re)simplify EventAI,

but complex bosses will need C++ in 'any' way, so the least we can do is put some parts of the SD2 scripts into the DB, but never the whole script

[Toinan67]

I agree with you, and I'll go even more for the "no" this time ^^

It would be annoying to have half of the script in the DB and half in C++. So, at the moment it's better to script them in C++.

[maly32167]

I seriously don't see what people like in DB scripting...

even without programming knowledge C++ scripts are more readable in my opinion, finding/doing something in EventAI is goddamn annoying (but its just my small opinion)

[Schmoozerd]

well, I think whether SD2 script or EventAI script is easier to read this is really just the question how much one is used to it.

But coding the ~4000-5000 mobs that are done with Acid in SD2 - good luck for readability and maintaining these scripts

[Toinan67]

I seriously don't see what people like in DB scripting...

even without programming knowledge C++ scripts are more readable in my opinion, finding/doing something in EventAI is goddamn annoying (but its just my small opinion)

It's annoying at the beginning, but when you get used to it, it will take less time to script a boss using EventAI than with SD2. And even less time if we had a nice boss-creating tool that would traduce what we want in SQL.

But coding the ~4000-5000 mobs that are done with Acid in SD2 - good luck for readability and maintaining these scripts

+1

It's a question of good sense, the perfect way would be no C++ scripts at all, only DB-based boss, even if scripting in C++ in a lot more interesting than EventAI.

But for now, EventAI is not complete enough to do everything we want.

[darkstalker]

EventAI has no way of communicating between scripts