MMaps Redux

[seal2000]

commit/499f9801407d47b019c4ea66c5a4266b96c5d988

MoveMapGen.exe

map is the wrong version

[Konctantin]

Because it must extract the maps an extractor from this repository

[kbz]

small question out of the blue:

what is the performance impact vs clean mangos core? (in %, Mb/Gb) with say.. 1k players?

[lillecarl]

small question out of the blue:

what is the performance impact vs clean mangos core? (in %, Mb/Gb) with say.. 1k players?

Depens on what your players are doing, if they all are running around in lowleven instances and pulling the entire instance, then jump down somewhere etc... then your server will burn in a second or 2 , but regular use would increase the load pretty much, i would not mmap continents etc... better just mmap the instances/arenas/bg's

[KuraiNeko]

I have a question))

How can i made. then MaNGOS not run without mmaps?? As like if we have incorrect folders to our data (dbc etc)

Some admin's from servers used my compiled projects turn off mmap's and i need to prevent this.

[tyrael]

bump? any news for this great feature?

[burninsky]

how can use this patch? anyone make patch file?

[michalpolko]

git pull git://github.com/faramir118/mangos.git mmaps_rewrite

[qsa]

small question out of the blue:

what is the performance impact vs clean mangos core? (in %, Mb/Gb) with say.. 1k players?

I'm asking the same question for quiet some time now

Take the initiative and gather this data. It will sure help the development.

bump? any news for this great feature?

bump? nay news for this great feature testing?

Sorry guys for not being too active recently, just bit busy lately.

Generally speaking, there aren't too much things that can be done without code review or bug reports, new ideas etc.

PS: I know there are some pretty esoteric problems wit some tiles on mangos zero, but I have no means debugging those at the moment.

So.. to sum it up:

1) We need some developer to review the code, general idea etc.

2) More tests and reports. Both positive and negative.

3) New idea can come in handy plus people who are willing to contribute to development process.

Without mentioned below, its just a matter of time till it dies out.

Best regards.

[KuraiNeko]

Sorry guys for not being too active recently, just bit busy lately.

Generally speaking, there aren't too much things that can be done without code review or bug reports, new ideas etc.

So i can test active. More stress test's not only ingame process. But isome agressive test's in very hard for pathfind locations.

So at this moment mmaps work pretty good. Use mmaps + charge mmap patch.

Mobs work correctly. Not fail under terrain. Fing path find.

test on many hard places. As wholes on searing gore & work pretty good.

I have some bugs but it's only from zero mmap's part.

1:

PS: I know there are some pretty esoteric problems wit some tiles on mangos zero, but I have no means debugging those at the moment.

Yep tiles loaded for few second only & after that unload. No debug info in console.(((

2:

On zero exist problem with hoover. Tested on onyxia at fly phase. When ony stop in air at fly. She fail to terrain. Recalk Z coord. But i think it's only zero problem also. Hover on zero not work.

3:

Need offmeshes base. Exist more places\\point's where need offmeshes. But at now we have only one.

on zero too small online to check all places for add all offmesh coordinats.

[qsa]

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So i can test active. More stress test's not only ingame process. But isome agressive test's in very hard for pathfind locations.

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I'm looking forward for results Thanks.

Memory/cpu diff given online count (/w /wo multithreading) can sure be valuable info.

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3:

Need offmeshes base. Exist more places\\point's where need offmeshes. But at now we have only one.

on zero too small online to check all places for add all offmesh coordinats.

The one point provided is just syntax example

I do agree that we need some sort of database, even basic one.

Don't be shy people, post those. Don't forget to mention for which version those are generated (master, one, zero) since map vary.

[KuraiNeko]

2 days.

I update core first 7 make with\\without mtmaps variation's

But it's only Zero tests. & online ~ 40 - 80 ppl

I try implement BG bots with simple ai. Like players ~ 200 bot\\ppl to memory/cpu tests

[michalpolko]

a lot of such crashes lately: http://pastebin.com/BrxJHtV8

last time merged with mmaps_rewrite on 06-27-2011

I'm using mangosR2 fork.

[michalpolko]

a lot of such crashes lately: http://pastebin.com/BrxJHtV8

last time merged with mmaps_rewrite on 06-27-2011

I'm using mangosR2 fork.

[qsa]

a lot of such crashes lately: http://pastebin.com/BrxJHtV8

last time merged with mmaps_rewrite on 06-27-2011

I'm using mangosR2 fork.

Nothing to do with mmaps from what I see.

std::bad_alloc -> new failed (possibly out of memory?)

Looking at the stack I'd guess something to do with vehicles (Player::VehicleSpellInitialize) ?

[michalpolko]

After switching mmaps use off -> no crashes anymore. This part in the beginning of another crashdump led me here: http://pastebin.com/HjCUjEse

Maybe some kind of path building for vehicles when player is entering it? Or maybe it is not related to mmaps...

[qsa]

After switching mmaps use off -> no crashes anymore. This part in the beginning of another crashdump led me here: http://pastebin.com/HjCUjEse

Maybe some kind of path building for vehicles when player is entering it? Or maybe it is not related to mmaps...

I can't see any mmap related code at any thread stacks, yet you got exactly the same vehicle calls all over.

If I were you, I'd look for too large vector allocation somewhere around Player::VehicleSpellInitialize -> WorldPacket opcode=377 -> ByteBuffer -> reserve

If you say, allocate 2giga there... with mmaps you may not have that kind of memory - fail, while you may have 2 giga free w/o.

In any case, chances this issue related to mmaps are rather slim. Besides, nothing changed in mmap code in a while now.

Cheers.

[tyrael]

Qsa why not post code underreview section?

[Skirnir]

@tyrael: Still no reports how mmaps work with more than 5-100 users. These tests are mandatory else you end up with something like this [1] (yeah my favorite github commit).

Regards

Skirnir

[1] https://github.com/MrMEEE/bumblebee/commit/a047be85247755cdbe0acce6f1dafc8beb84f2ac

[michalpolko]

I don't know if this has been reported already, but...

If a flying monster is in the air - it evades when trying to chase some target on the ground. So there should be some check if creature can fly, has splineflag flying etc. then it shouldn't evade.

[KuraiNeko]

Fly system's now it's not mmaps bug as i think

Just core.

On zero more fly bugs on master small but it's exist.

Need correct fly up\\fly down system.

& more more more.

Swim also need improve in mango

But it's core bug's

[qsa]

I don't know if this has been reported already, but...

If a flying monster is in the air - it evades when trying to chase some target on the ground. So there should be some check if creature can fly, has splineflag flying etc. then it shouldn't evade.

Can't confirm it using the revision in mmap master.

Tested with flying creatures with inhabit air and ground, or only one of them set.

[Undergarun]

@tyrael: Still no reports how mmaps work with more than 5-100 users. These tests are mandatory else you end up with something like this [1] (yeah my favorite github commit).

Regards

Skirnir

I'm using mmaps with more than 3000+ ppl online since some months ago without problems. Also i have mtmaps (4 Threads) and 48 GB DDR3 ECC with MySQL in other server.

Waiting for merge with mangos due to changes made by SilverIce.

[michalpolko]

About flying, sry my bad, those creatures didnt have inhabittype flying -.-'

[qsa]

@tyrael: Still no reports how mmaps work with more than 5-100 users. These tests are mandatory else you end up with something like this [1] (yeah my favorite github commit).

Regards

Skirnir

I'm using mmaps with more than 3000+ ppl online since some months ago without problems. Also i have mtmaps (4 Threads) and 48 GB DDR3 ECC with MySQL in other server.

Waiting for merge with mangos due to changes made by SilverIce.

That's pretty good news.

How about we make a deal?

I will merge with leatest mangos and all its changes, and you in return, will make a detailed report about mmap memory/cpu consumption as function of number of players. With mmaps and without.

How does that sound?